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Post by Swix » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:04 pm

We come to RP for fun, yes? Or some of us to de-stress or try to forget what's going on IRL because this is one of few outlets we have. You know when it's not fun? It's not fun when we have to start worrying over whether our chars actions, or lack of, when we cannot RP due to IRL issues are assumed without our consultation, especially if that assumption is something entirely counter to our characters personality.
You know what? I can't be online all the time, every day. Few people can. And I do not want, nor should I *need* to, RP my individual characters everyday actions-EVERY DAY. That's not why I RP. I thought it would make sense to assume that when something major is going is when I would RP my char, or during a character development, you know, when I really *need* to direct them. But oh no, apparently not here!
I shouldn't *need* to RP an individuals day to day interactions every day for fear of one character taking the non-interaction of a char because I'm busy or playing someone else to mean something that never crossed my mind because it's entirely counter to their personality. Do you know how many characters I have? I have over 20, maybe even 30 by now. I *can't RP every single one of them's everyday interactions... EVERY DAY!* It is literally impossible!
So, it would make more sense to assume that they do their day to day thing behind the scenes when I'm not using them. Case in point, Nym. I don't use Nym that often, because Nym is not someone I always think to use. So I *thought* it would make sense that, when I'm not using her, that she'd likely be doing her behind the scenes thing. You know, going to see her friends, eating-not sleeping, reading, spending time in the HQ with the other Knights, or spending time out in the Encampment. Nym is too nice not to go see people she knows. Heck she probably even visits Tom.
But I came on yesterday to find out that simply because I haven't been using Nym, it's been assumed by another player that Nym has been ignoring another char on purpose? I didn't even know there was a problem. Gods forbid any of you guys actually talk to me about this.
Never mind that it's not in her personality AT ALL to do something like that
So since I haven't seen a bunch of other peoples characters, should I assume that they're all ignoring my chars too? Is that what we're doing now? Should I assume that since I rarely see Sethre, Mina and her star pupil don't see each other ever anymore, even though I know Sethre and Mina both hang around the Tower quite a bit? Should I assume that since CP only RPed going to see char-Swix on Dea once, that that's the one and only time that they're ever going to see each other and now they're ignoring each other? Is *that* what we're doing now?
I bloody well hope not. Because it's not fair on other players to put that sort of stress on them when I know that everyone has their own RL issues to deal with
But if it is. Well. I guess that I can't be here anymore because as I stated it is literally impossible for me to RP tens of chars day to day lives, and I shouldn't be RPing purely for fear of hurting another player characters feelings. That is *not cool*. This has *got* to stop

While I'm at it, other Paxian things that annoy me that I kept bottled up

OOC knowledge.

It came to my attention a little while ago that I can't trust the majority of you with OOC knowledge. Even those of you who protest that your chars only learn thngs ICly have used OOC knowledge I've given you. Whether intentional or not it shouldn't have happened in the first place. That's why I don't give it out anymore, whether privately or in jest. It saddens me that I can't trust you guys that far anymore.

Disappearing characters.

I don't know if you guys have noticed, but I'm reluctant to have any of my characters interact with any new characters of yours. This is mainly due to the trend of those characters then disappearing in some private rp, never to be seen or heard from in public again. I guess it's ok, it just annoys me when I have a char out just to make friends with a 'Paxian newbie' only to have them then disappear as though they never existed.

Secretly finished plotlines.

Again, I don't know if you guys have noticed but if I make a potentially world changing plotline, I try to get everyone involved. Because it's my opinion that having said plot suddenly resolved behind closed doors-especially if I already got others involved-almost immediately after the cause was found out by one character is not fair on the other people I involved, not to mention all the loose ends such an action could generate. Sure, have the little, minor, non-world changing plots resolved in private when they're done in private, but don't go making a massive one that involves lots of people, only to have it dealt with within hours by a single person.

Whining at the GMs/DMs

I know I'm kinda breaking my own list of annoyances here, but if something is quite clearly being run by one person, don't whine at them when they say something your character did either did or didn't work on the 'Boss' the GM elected to use just because it isn't what you wanted to or thought would happen. This has happened to me countless times and it is getting majorly tiring and out of hand. Just because something that you wanted to work, didn't, doesn't mean that there's no way to solve the problem. Deal with it and be creative, that's a part of RPing! Plus keep in mind that the one most likely to know what a Boss character that they are playing-for *your* enjoyment no less-limitations and strengths are is not you, it is the GM! We're people too, and if you think we made a mistake don't have a go at us about it, open a dialogue and tell us why. Or, my preferred method would be to be more descriptive when posting your actions. We aren't mind readers either, we're people, like you.

Killing is not always the best method to deal with a situation.

This last one should be self explanatory. Especially when it comes to PCs rather than NPCs.

I think I'm done now. Thoughts, comments? Resolutions? I'm hoping for the third. We need some coherence here and we need more teamwork and less hiding behind our feelings or guilt trips. Some of what I say may be seen as harsh, but I cannot keep going here with this all pent up. Rant at me back if you like, this all needs to be said here, in public, in the open, for all to see.
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Post by TheDarkPsycho » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:02 pm

My Thoughts

Main Subject:
It's no secret I work a full time dayjob. I do have the benefit that it is on a computer for 8 hours a day. However, with the Open Floor plan and whatnot, I am not free to do as I please, and even if that wasn't the case, I'd still have to do my work, sometimes with very little notice.

There is more. Forty (40) hours is considered a full time workweek in the U.S. However, I often end up working closer to 50ish hours almost every week because well, that's the nature of my career. And because of labor laws here and the fact I'm salary, all that over-time is uncompensated. Not that it's your problem, it's just the nature of my job. I've accepted this a long time ago.

Add to the fact that my wedding is now one month and one day away, and there goes my time at home.

As such, I can't sit on a chat all day to RP. It may be hours, if not days, before I can get back to something. I don't blame people for moving on. The good thing about playing the god of Insanity is that he/she tends to be aloof like that, so it's all explained away.

OOC knowledge:
I haven't seen this myself, but I don't host RP's anymore. After all the whining during the Insanity Wars, I just don't. But when I did, I kept things close to the chest for a reason. I had two or three people I'd trust with plot elements, but that is only when I had a role for them to play.

Disappearing characters:
I'm as guilty of this as anyone else. However, sometimes I'm trying a character out for fit, and I don't like them so I don't use them again. I don't disappear with them down the private RP hole, I just don't use them again.

Whining at the GMs/DMs:
This. THIS RIGHT HERE. I don't host RP's anymore because of this. When you are not hosting/GM'ing/DM'ing, you need to trust us that are that really, everything will be alright. The events may be world changing, but that's not a bad thing. Yes I killed a character. It was my character, I wasn't using him and didn't intend to use him, and therefore it was my choice. It was far from the first time I've used Death to kick of an RP. Had you played through, maybe you'd have found a way to reverse it. Or save the day. I don't make my scenario's impossible. Hard, maybe, but it was meant to be. It was the culmination of a story arc that had gone on for two years.

So yeah, not cool. I'll help other GM's with idea, characters, etc, but I won't host my own. Not until something changes.

Killing is not always the best method to deal with a situation:
Also a valid point. In the RP's I hosted, the ideal solution rarely involved killing the bad guy. If you want that, go play an RPG. It's a greater feat to win without killing. Think about that sometime.
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Post by 3kul » Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:20 am

Just going to post here real quick for the opposite: please assume that my characters are either dead or in hiding whenever I'm not around (nearly always nowadays - "inactive" is a bit too generous a term to describe my RPing style as of the last... decade?)

If I've only used a character once and then never again odds are I'm not likely to keep going with them, sorry :(

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Post by Swix » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:33 am

If you used a character to test them out and then decide that you don't like them and so don't use them again then that's fine. I've done that too. It's when people come on, use a new character, that character then disappears so I assume they must've been a test. Then in the course of general talking I ask if the player didn't like them as I haven't seen them since they first show up only to be told that 'if your char really wanted to see them again then they should have gone running after them and saved them from the mindcontrol/slavery/mauling/imprisoning/murder' during some private RP that I wasn't invited to and didn't even know was happening. It makes me feel like that player blames me for what happened during that private RP I wasn't invited to and didn't know was even a thing and that doesn't make me want to RP with new chars more. So I'm not going to unless I'm absolutely sure that they aren't going to disappear down the private rp hole.
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