Double Post only because for all the free time I have, I've actually been fairly busy recently (and I wanted to post last night but I never got it finished)
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>As I said, the trick to calling an interviewer out on thinking that your being overqualified is a disadvantage is to do so without sounding too aggressive or bitter about it. If you are concerned that you can't do this, or it feels like you're being drawn into an argument with the interviewer, you could just try to think of the real question to answer as "how do I know you won't leave in six months like so many of our other employees have?"[/quote]
That's an interesting way of thinking about it, I'll certainly keep that in mind for next time-and not sound bitter.
I had a consultation with a woman from a place that's supposed to give people jobseeker advice and her words were "I wish Brackenhurst (that's the college I went to) would stop doing this" and I asked her why then, what was so bad about learning skills for a possible job that I was interested in, and she clammed up and wouldn't talk to me about it for the rest of the time I was there. Also I was apparently 'so well educated' they were only allowed to give me two sessions with them to try and get some pointers.
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>Definitely apply for jobs that you're underqualified for, there's really nothing bad that can come from it; you'll gain some interesting experiences and you'll find yourself feeling a bit more positive[/quote]
I definitely will now, absolutely! Might have missed some interesting opportunities already but I'm sure that I can find more.
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>because you're looking beyond jobs like shelf stacker (highly lucrative field that it is ^o) ).[/quote]
Yeah... to be honest I only saw that because at the time I was looking for 'learning whilst you work' courses. Some of those are Apprenticeships, which are meant to be for Skilled jobs like plumber, joiner, carpenter, electrician, etc and the company where the apprentice does those courses are meant to guarantee them a job afterwards. Only they changed the wording around it to 'open them up' recently and I saw ones for shelf stacker, cashier, greeter, even telesales operator. I only looked at them because I was going "Wait. WHAT?" (I have something of an insatiable curiousity-plus there was some telesales CEO on the news at the time abusing this and trying to gain sympathy-but that's another rant). They were all 40 hours a week, and less than half minumum wage, which says more about companies desire to cut down on wages whilst still keeping the same amount of staff than it does about actually learning anything really. I wasn't actually looking to go into them, I know I can do better than that XD. Just seeing them when looking to better myself is depressing.
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>If they don't want you, you simply won't hear from them.[/quote]
Well, that I can deal with. I stopped taking that personally a long time ago. I'd rather that than the company that phoned me up and went "Hey, we're interested and we'll have a slot open in three months time, so don't apply for anything else until you hear back from us, because you definitely will!" and then, well, didn't.
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>It's worth noting that, even though I've had plenty of jobs, I've also had plenty of interviews that did not go very well at all! One interview I had when I was much younger that really shattered my confidence was for a telemarketing position; the interviewer asked me almost straight away to try and sell him cheese (their company didn't actually sell cheese, this was just something that he chose at random). I performed terribly (thank God, because otherwise I would have actually become a telemarketer XD), the interview was over in less than 20 minutes, and I left wondering why he'd bothered to interview me in the first place! Now of course I understand why he'd make it difficult for me (because I had no proven sales experience, I needed to show that I could sell
something), and even with no proven sales experience they gave me an interview simply because telemarketing is an industry with an astronomically high turnover rate.[/quote]
Is it strange that makes me feel a bit better? XD. I know now why some companies do what they do but when I first went out it felt like, walking through a field full of glass and mines without any preparation. There was the one place I worked at immediately out of college and they were employing me illegally-I didn't know it at the time, but when they told me I had to leave that felt like a personal blow. Now I know why they did it and I know what they were doing so I don't feel so bad but at the time I thought it was something I did. There was also the pharmaceutical job (that I was actually enjoying) that told me I had to go because 'I wasn't confident enough', which I unfortunately found out too late had nothing to do with that and everything to do with someone else taking a personal dislike to me, and was therefore a wrongful termination. I suppose at least I learned quite a bit about drugs whilst I was there.
I am quite a bit more wary of companies now, as you can probably see. If I find anything is not quite right when I do a trial or an interview or anything I tend to go running. There was another one I did work experience for as a trial, because it was quite a responsible and fairly risky job, but when I got there the name was wrong and when I mentioned contracts I found not only did I know more about contracts than they did, but they viewed people who were looking for a job as nothing but 'cheap, unambitious, unimportant hardworking labour' (he actually said that to me). So, needless to say I had a very hard think about that that day whilst I was there and didn't turn up again. Then again, I didn't really want to work somewhere that violated the animal health and safety laws anyway. (I did report them, maybe it wasn't the smart thing to do, but, I couldn't let them keep doing what they were doing without compromising my conscience).
I know a few people who went into telemarketing and as bad as my job is now they tell me that absolutely anything,
anything at all is better than doing that.
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>Tailoring your resume to suit the job is... Well, up until very recently I didn't think it was necessary, and I've gotten every job I've had so far without ever changing my resume, but I met with a resume consultant recently (long story short I won a free one hour consultation session at an education expo) who explained that it is a good idea to adjust your resume to suit the job. According to him, you don't need to change the content,
just the order it's presented in.
So, for example, in my old resume I would always have my details, personal statement and education on the front page, however the consultant pointed out that my education was fairly stock standard and not likely to impress anybody (I'm in teaching and have a Diploma of Education, a one year postgraduate course which is the minimum requirement for any teacher, so he was right in saying that). He explained that the front page of your resume is the most important page - apparently some employers don't bother looking beyond this, so if you waste space or don't put the best information here you might miss out. Obviously your details always have to go at the front, but now I've shifted my key skills and attributes and most recent employment history to the front page, and moved my education to the back page. I plan on keeping this format for most of the jobs that I apply for, but if I ever apply for a private school I might choose to shift my education to the front page again, as I went to a private school when I was younger, and that kind of history is a positive to any private school employer.
I can send you a copy of my newest resume if you feel that would help you better understand what I'm talking about.[/quote]
Oh! That makes sense, another thing I never considered!
. Errr, sending me a copy of your resume is very generous and kind of you, but I'm pretty sure I get the point, so I don't think I'd need it. That explanation is thorough enough that I'm sure I can integrate that idea into my own resume.
As a side note, you went to a private school? I'm now officially jealous! XD. I went to public schools, I only learned how to read and write properly because my parents were adamant I well, learn how to read and write properly so they tutored me in English after school as well. I'm glad they did, some of the people who went to my primary school left with less than adequate reading and writing skills.
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>You don't need to make major changes to your resume to suit the job if you don't want to, but you
definitely need to tailor your cover letter to suit the job that you're applying for. Every application you make should include a cover letter, and you should always keep your cover letter to one page long.[/quote]
Now that, that I do already ^_^. Every job I've applied for always has a cover letter tailored specifically for it.
<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>3kul</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>Teaching is a really tough job, I wouldn't recommend it to anybody who isn't already keen on the idea. I can talk to you about it in more detail if you'd like, but I think that this post is long enough for now as it is
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That's fair enough, I won't press you on that (although I do relish a challenge, that's why I took the Biochemistry and Microbiology module at college rather than Aquatics). I was just wondering if maybe you could give any insight into why somebody would just mention that to me at apparent random. I suppose he must've seen something he liked that I cannot.
Again, thank you so much 3kul! You've really helped a lot!